…and includes analysis on the Public Charge Rule, Illegal Immigrant Voters, and AI Generated Black Female Nazis
Elon Musk appeared on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast. In a rambling conversation touching on DOGE, AI, and space exploration, Musk and Rogan started by talking about Social Security. Musk was saying that social security is a Ponzi (pyramid) scheme. We’ve known that for a while. Too many people are taking out, and not enough people are paying in.
(Starting at about 1:04:22, they really get into immigration).
We know that immigration is the root cause of collapsing Social Security. Immigrants pull 110%-120% more out of Social Security than they pay into it, while Americans tend to leave a small (4%) surplus. [See Mass Immigration Won’t Save Social Security, FAIR, August 2020]
Rogan brought up the claims of one whistleblower who claimed her job was getting illegal aliens on long term disability which means disability payments for life.
(This is the clip from seven years ago that he was referencing.)
It’s actually “refugees” who qualify for payments. This is despite laws on the books about immigrants not being allowed in if they are a public charge.
De-naturalize And Deport Public Charges
By Mike Adams
The moment someone becomes a refugee, they get social security cards ostensibly so they can work in the United States. They also get money from the Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) through their Refugee Cash Assistance (RCA) program. Talk about something that needs reforming or defunding—get rid of free money for refugees.
To his credit, President Trump during his first term attempted to change the public charge rules so that using forms of public assistance such as SNAP, housing benefits, and Medicaid would be grounds to exclude would-be immigrants. However, this only came into effect at the end of his term, and Biden quickly reversed them.
One thing Joe Rogan says that is incorrect is that they are illegal aliens. Technically, the Left will be quick to point out that they are not “undocumented immigrants” (as they would put it), but “refugees.” I put “refugees” in quotes because the vast majority of them are not really refugees. They just come from miserable poor countries, and they want to live in a wealthier one. They are willing to tell the truth or lies to get here.
Musk says,
“Why is the Democratic propaganda machine so fired up to destroy me? That’s the main reason. The main reason is the entitlements fraud. That includes social security, disability, Medicaid, entitlements fraud for illegal aliens is what is serving as a gigantic magnetic force to pull people in from all around the world and keep them here. Like basically if you pay people at a standard of living that is above 90% of earth, then you have a very powerful, uh, incentive for 90% of earth to come here…and to stay here. But, if you end illegal alien fraud, then you turn off that magnet, and they leave…Many of them will simply leave.”
Now to back up a moment, again, the left will say they are “refugees,” not illegal aliens. However, many of them will have come across our southern border completely illegally, but then asked for political asylum upon arrest. If they get lucky and find themselves in front of a liberal Immigration Judge (IJ), then they are a shoo-in to get refugee status and therefore government benefits courtesy of the American taxpayer.
Musk goes on to say that they (the Democrats) will lose a massive amount of Democratic voters. Musk points out that illegal aliens can already vote in states like New York in municipal elections. This is true in cities in New York City, SF and Oakland in California, and even our nation’s capital.
(Since local elections are frequently held at the same time as federal elections, it makes it hard to stop them from voting in both).
Musk goes on to point out how FEMA was paying for luxury hotels for illegal aliens in New York City. That was not the original intent of FEMA when it was first established. Musk says FEMA still “pressed send” on $80 million to fund the migrant hotels.
FEMA says they got back $59 million of it, and later DHS Secretary Kristi Noem reported that those responsible were fired.
When I was still on the job, one of our Agents had gone to do a transportation check at the local bus station. A Burmese man traveling with his family came up to him to ask for directions. So, the Agent checked his documents and found out he was a refugee. They got to talking and the Burmese man said he had been an engineer back in Burma. His intent was to stay in America for a few years as a refugee until the benefits ran out and then go back to Burma.
Musk goes on to pontificate on such things as lack of voter ID, and says this is an attempt to destroy America. Musk says that eventually they (the illegals) will be able to vote. I have to agree, but I firmly believe that many of them already are voting in elections. For example, in 2019 the California DMV was forced to admit that 1,500 non-citizens had been registered to vote due to a “processing error” thanks to a nice Canadian man (a legal permanent resident who’s lived in California for 31 years)who received a voter registration card in the mail. And many DMV employees in states that offer drivers licenses to immigrants will offer voter registration in the same transaction. Any coordinated effort is hard to prove though. The “woke” FBI should be investigating voter fraud. Musk says that the game plan was to do to America what was done to California. “That’s why I went so hard for Trump and that’s why the Democrats are so intent on destroying me.”
That’s really what the left is trying to cover up by going on offense and claiming the Republicans are cutting Medicaid and Medicare. Rogan points out that the Democrats hide behind being the “compassionate people.” Compassionately bankrupting America. California is giving illegal aliens healthcare.
There are many other good aspects to Rogan’s interview of Elon Musk. Musk mentions professor Gad Saad and Saad’s use of the term “suicidal empathy” (around 1:16:00 of the interview). Musk says that the left is exploiting people’s empathy.
Around 1:25:00, Musk brings up how the Biden administration was suing Space X for not hiring asylum seekers. This despite a law making it illegal to hire anyone but US citizens or Resident Aliens (Green Card holders) in sensitive industries involving weapons or technologies that can be used as weapons. Fortunately, the Trump administration dropped that lawsuit.
Around 2:12:45, they get into the subject of AI generating images of the Founding Fathers as all black.
ChatGPT even had Nazi SS members as black females.
Musk even speculates that a woke AI would say that there are too many white guys in power and would recommend executing them.
Ultimately, Rogan and Musk cover a lot of interesting ground, but a key underlying theme that applies to nationalist policy-making is defining, in the age of DOGE, the purpose of welfare and “Who is a citizen?” and “Who gets to vote?”