Giving an interview at the Remigration Summit in Portugal with German media. If only all experiences could be as fun and intellectually stimulating!
I was asked for an interview by the Fort Worth Report’s (tweet them here) Cecelia Lenzen (you can email her here) about the upcoming True Texas Project conference in Dallas (get your tickets here!).
Predictably, the article was just a hit piece on the conference, but hit pieces just don’t work anymore.
All speakers stood their ground. This “journalist” failed to cover the actual content of the upcoming talks and only shared two small segments of my response. That didn’t stop the True Texas Project from gleaming with pride over their well-organized (and now even more well-advertised!) conference.
Check out their response (featuring us!) below!
Of course, to illustrate how disingenuous (incompetent?) the Fort Worth Report was at covering this story, and to spark some discussion about Remigration in anticipation of the event, I’ve included my full interview transcript below. I can’t wait to meet everyone in Dallas for another interesting and energetic event!
Lenzen: First, I’m curious how you know the folks at True Texas Project, and how long you’ve known them. What’s your relationship with them like?
Quinn: They reached out over X in January, and I spoke at their event in Houston in February. They were wonderful hosts and the audience was educated and curious. The other speakers likewise gave me much to think about, so I’m looking forward to another stimulating event!
Lenzen: What city do you live in? (We just try to contextualize where people are from).
Quinn: I live just outside of DC.
- Lenzen: Can you describe for readers the nature of the White Papers Policy Institute’s work? From what I’m seeing online, the institute is still fairly young so I’m curious what you’d note as some of its biggest accomplishments or efforts so far.
- Quinn:Yes! We only formally launched in 2023, and I’m grateful for the incredible reception.
- Our biggest accomplishment is the mainstreaming of Remigration and the practical and humane proposals we put forward.
- For example, we were tickled when we noticed Sweden was pioneering a voluntary repatriation effort in 2024 in line with our recommendations. Sweden is often labeled the “canary in the coal mine” of the West’s failing experiment in multiculturalism. However, it is also the first nation to radically reverse its position on migration. We issued a list of recommendations to the Swedish government via an open letter, and they adopted all of them. You can read our latest update here.
- We’re also happy to see that Remigration as a term is officially part of the Republican platform thanks to Donald Trump and Andy Ogles of TN. Are they reading White Papers? I can’t say for sure or break confidences, but I hope so! I would love to see our draft legislation refined by congress and brought to life. Andy Ogles’ upcoming Remigration Act seems to align with our draft legislation of the same name, although we’ll find out for sure when the bill text is released. Whether he is directly aware of us or not, it doesn’t matter. This is one example of how our ideas, whether directly or indirectly, have percolated into national debate.
- Lenzen: You’re scheduled to lead a discussion on The Remigration Cure at the Year of the Patriot conference. Can you give us a brief overview of what that discussion will look like? How do you explain the remigration cure to people who haven’t heard of it before?
- Quinn:Remigration is such an important concept—and one we need to define properly. Remigration is a combination of mandatory policies (deporting illegal immigrants and those who have obtained citizenship through fraud) and voluntary policies (such as a generous stipend offered for relocation to a migrant’s homeland) designed with the intent of reversing the demographic damage of the 1965 Immigration Act which removed the national quota system that preserved the original founding demographic group of the US.
- For those who think stipends are too generous or expensive for America, I would remind them that we have already been the most generous country in the world, to our detriment.
- 25% of all Mexicans live in the US. 70% rely on welfare.
- ~10% of Guatemalans live here. 77% are on welfare
- 12% of Nicaraguans live here. 75% rely on welfare
- 12% of Haitians live here. 53% rely on welfare
- Essentially, we can’t afford not to implement a voluntary remigration program.
- Lenzen: True Texas Project hosted a similar conference in 2024 that some people criticized as racist, noting the event’s discussions on Christian nationalism and “The War on White America.” I’m curious if you had known of that event prior to agreeing to the Year of the Patriot conference, and what your take on it was.
- Quinn: I hadn’t heard, but I also don’t care!
- First, I think people label an idea, person, or organization as “racist” as a way of avoiding inevitable discussions about immigration or race. I think most people recognize that as cowardly, so I think people mostly disregard it. It’s basically the adult version of bullying. My daughter is 14 now, and I’m sorry to have to explain to her that some people just never grow up.
- Second, no matter what anyone else calls them, I let people show me who they are. The TTP showed me they’re curious and intellectually honest people who love Texas. That’s enough for me!
- Lenzen: I’m seeing some criticism online and in community forums about the Year of the Patriot conference’s lineup of speakers and sessions. Some have called the topics, including the one on remigration, as racist or discriminatory to immigrants and nonwhite people. How do you respond to that concern?
- Quinn: People act as interest groups. We have to deal with that whether we want to or not. We can’t close our eyes and wish it was different. In my late teens/early twenties, I served as the Secretary Treasurer of the Seattle branch of the Communist labor union, the IWW. To supplement my activism, I attended a lecture at the University of Washington by Selma James, wife of Trotskyite writer and activist CLR James on the subject of the recognition of women’s household work as paid work. A member of the audience asked her what she thought of “intersectionality” and James answered, “It doesn’t make sense to me. We’re supposed to unite the working class. Why would you divide it even further?”
- This stuck with me: diversity is a deadly weakness for any kind of organized society whether it be a union, a social club, or a functioning nation.
- When working in mainstream organized labor, I noticed that SEIU, the hospitality workers union, and UFCW, the grocery worker’s union, suffered the same problems when incorporating a labor force that did not speak English or assimilate. Business Insider later exposed diversity as a union busing tactic when they uncovered Whole Foods’ “heat map” which identified stores at risk of unionization. Their key metric was diversity. The more homogeneous a store, the more at risk it is to unionize.
- The same applies to the nation. If we allow large numbers of other ethnic groups to immigrate into our country, they do not assimilate, they unfortunately self-segregate amongst each other instead. For example, Pew Research reveals only 33% of third-generation Hispanics in the US identify as American. These groups naturally have competing interests, and we are losing our national unity of purpose and identity.
- Lastly, we love Swedes! We love the Dutch! And we love Americans. It would be a devastating loss to the world if these ethnic groups ceased to exist. I don’t want that. If that’s racist, so be it. I’d rather be racist and have a coherent civilization for my grandchildren than shirk my responsibilities for “good boy points.”
- A humane, voluntary remigration strategy is the best way to ensure our national survival.